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« on: March 19, 2012, 06:57:35 PM »
i found a new market today. dont even if its genuine:
http://www.taketwopublishing.com/

i want to where would such a market (if geniune of course) would stand against amazon or any other e-publishing giant? i dont think anyone can beat amazon kindle, can it?
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2012, 07:15:14 PM »
Looks like they published their website this month. The only way to find out anything, at this early stage, is to either watch and monitor the site or submit a synopsis as requested.

They seem to want to know their authors as they're asking for:

  • Tell us about the authors who inspire your writing and what kind of author you want to be
  • Social media accounts you currently have and links to the pages

I think we're going to see more and more small publishers as publishing gets easier, or at least access to publishing gets easier. Most small publishers are simply in the  middle between the author and the printing or digital publishers.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2012, 10:08:17 PM »
hmmm...i'm not comfy with this Spell. i may submit a synopsis of sthg i dont value as much as a...i dont know. sthg which even if they ran away with wont hurt me as much. but ur right abt monitoring them.

also...when there's kindle, why do i need an e-publisher? a publisher to me wud be valuable if i wanted to break into print big time.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 01:26:55 AM »
Winterpk, amazon.com is a marketplace, but Amazon is a publisher as well, utilizing its own marketplace very effectively. You have lots of small publishers out there, but what you want to know is what kind of readership do they  have?  If tens of thousands of readers look for their next book on their site, then that's one thing. If only 1500 people have ever bought books from them, then you're going to be depending entirely on your own promotion to sell the book and then, since it's an ebook, why not do it yourself?  I'll be posting a piece on my NWI blog tomorrow about 'trading up' from indie publishing to publishing with one of the big publishers and the numbers involved

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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 09:42:47 AM »
I'm with you winterpk, I'd only give them something I didn't care about. At this time, I'm not interested at all. There's already so much out there that's got a record to look through. However, they'd be good to watch to see how their promotions are bringing readers and authors to them. Can't hurt to monitor, as best as possible, the up and coming. There's going to be some that shine and some that fall into the mud and don't recover.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 09:57:09 AM »
i agree Spell!

Mary, i'll be waiting for that piece Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 10:53:26 PM »
It's up, Winter.   http://www.newwritersinterface.com/trading-up-by-making-friends  The 'bar' for interesting an agent or editor is coming down quickly.  The blog post gives you some tips on how to increase your sales, too. 

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 12:42:48 AM »
Great article and tips, Mary.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 09:41:32 AM »
Thanks Mary,

It's nice to see the numbers coming down. I haven't checked them lately. Great ideas for marketing.

Our local paper placed a story that started on the front page (good size-about 1/3) and continued on the fourth page (Complete except for one ad). It's one part of four intended to bring awareness of the subject, the Everglades, and a book coming out later this year. The article is written by the author. The title and publication date aren't given. I can't find it at any book sites yet, so I'm uncertain if it's to be published by a major publisher (although there should be some indication of it's imminent publication), local publisher (Pineapple Press, a couple of Universities that publish local books) or self-publishing. Will have to continue watching the local paper. I'm going to ask around and see who knows these people, the author and the photographer, and if they're local. Wow-intrigue. It's sure to be a big hit around here with so many interested in the local history. And it's been awhile since a book of this nature has been published.

I'm a big proponent for self-publishing provided the piece is properly edited.

So, again, Mary thank you for the insightful, informational article.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 11:37:23 AM »
lovely read and i'm so relieved! i may just have my own niche..wow! Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2012, 12:42:05 AM »
Niches are very doable, winter.  And good editing is very very important with self publishing.  A lot of folk jumped on the self publishing bandwagon at the start and simply uploaded unedited and un-spellchecked manuscripts under the belief that the idea would carry the day.  Not. If you want to sell in the thousands per month, the book needs to be professional in quality. 

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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2012, 07:13:52 AM »
Glad Mary you mentioned about good editing. I've read a few self-published and the mistakes glare at me. I know you get the occasional in a published novel but nothing like I've seen in self-publishing. Do those writers think we wouldn't notice it?
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 11:25:00 AM »
Ann,

I think a lot of them don't have a clue. Many are sure they've written the next best seller and can't figure out why the throngs aren't buying their books. (a different subject, but same idea, a friends daughter opened a clothing store. She stayed open 2 weeks. She spent a lot of  upgrading the storefront, she didn't have any left for advertising and letting people know she was there-marketing-and couldn't figure out why she wasn't as busy as Walmart. After all, she had a website too. What good was that two weeks and lost funds?) What good is a well written, edited story when there's no marketing? What good is a lot of money sunk into publishing a poorly written, edited book? Most often without marketing as the author spend all their funds publishing?

Yesterday an author visited me with a book she published through xlibris. They didn't seem to care about mistakes either. They did ask her to have it edited and gave her a list of editors. She asked a friend to edit it because the editors were too expensive for her, who of course, refused payment. She was disappointed about the fact she hasn't sold any books. Price, over $20.00 for a paperback, a memoir that's all over the place and the fact she is unknown are big deterrents. I asked her about her marketing and discussed with her some of the things I've learned here. All I got back were excuses why she can't or hasn't done any of them. She continually begs me to purchase the book. I told her I read it and gave her the reasons why I wouldn't buy it. She has no intention of fixing any of my suggestions. That's her right. She's already paid one publisher and is about to pay another publisher because she thinks they'll have better luck selling her book. Although this isn't self-publishing, it's very similar.

I'm not saying all self-published or vanity published books are poor quality. But there are so many to push through to find the good ones.

That's why I'm thankful for LR. Their encouragement for quality manuscripts and for their advice on writing, publishing and marketing can only make us good authors as long as we follow their precepts. I know my money is well spent and my manuscripts are benefiting, even now. And every time I think about their encouragement that not all authors are Dickens, JK Rowling, etc, but can do just as well, I remember the horse Seabiscuit.  I read his story when I was a child. I have always remembered that he, at the time,  was the all-time leading money winner. I know I can do the same now that I'm with the right trainer  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 12:00:35 PM »
Here is a link to a great self-publishing success: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-i-became-a-best-selling-author-.html
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 01:48:07 PM »
Thanks lizbeth.

By the way, I put a link for your blog at my blog for self-publishing how to's.

Thanks.
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